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a number of the banks. whether it be concerns about the budget or the debt ceiling, it's one of these issues. >> and all of these come as the banks are performing very well. if you want to know whether they are safer, if they are better businesses compared to a year ago, that's another question, right, mary? >> take a look at the revenue. a number of banks would argue, yes, we are safer. but as far as revenue goes, this is speaks to how the businesses are performing. really the growth on the revenue front isn't there. it's either down or very slight increases in revenue growth. you are seeing improvement in profitability as these companies continue to cut costs. they're being very, very aggressive on expense management. and that's helping to drive the bottom line. >> let's get to ww gragranger. this is a big move in today's session. >> there was a company in the machinery and repair business, a good window into the industrial businesses, $240 stock, which is a big stock that people tend not to talk about. they miss sales estimates. sales continue to grow. interesting. they bl
're going to get a public policy flare-up like we had in '10 or '11 during the debt ceiling debate or what happened during the whole election process which so influenced business confidence a year ago. so those two factors are better than they were each of the last three years. the growth piece is similar. on balance we think that adds up to something less than those prior three-year corrections. but close to at least last year's. >> there are some interesting calls in that analysis. barry, thank you very much for your time. barry knapp there at barclays. >>> switching gears a bit from the broader markets to technology, specifically apple and its slide back below $400 today. does the news out of verizon offset all the bad news we got from supplier cirrus yesterday. dan niles, is the cio of alpha one capital, he's been negative on apple shares for six to nine months or so. joins us on the news line today. dan, welcome back. >> thanks, carl. nice to be on. >> does any of the activations of the iphone out of verizon negate or offset what spooked us from cirrus yesterday? >> not at all. verizo
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